What if we were still using the old points system?


It's time for something a bit different. This is more out of interest than anything, but what would the drivers and constructors standings looks like if we were still using the old points scoring system? (pre-2003)

1st - 10pts 2nd - 6pts 3rd - 4pts 4th - 3pts 5th - 2pts 6th - 1pt

Here they are:


Position Driver Country Team Points
1 Sebastian Vettel Ger Red Bull-Renault 89
2 Fernando Alonso Spa Ferrari 86
3 Lewis Hamilton GB McLaren-Mercedes 59
4 Jenson Button GB McLaren-Mercedes 59
5 Kimi Raikkonen Fin Lotus-Renault 51
6 Mark Webber Aus Red Bull-Renault 49
7 Felipe Massa Bra Ferrari 24
8 Nico Rosberg Ger Mercedes GP 22
9 Romain Grosjean Fra Lotus-Renault 19
10 Sergio Perez Mex Sauber 17
11 Pastor Maldonado Ven Williams-Renault 12
12 Kamui Kobayashi Jpn Sauber 11
13 Nico Hulkenberg Ger Force India-Mercedes 8
14 Michael Schumacher Ger Mercedes GP 5
15 Paul Di Resta GB Force India-Mercedes 4
16 Bruno Senna Bra Williams-Renault 1
17 Jean-Eric Vergne Fra Toro Rosso-Ferrari 0
18 Daniel Ricciardo Aus Toro Rosso-Ferrari 0
19 Vitaly Petrov Rus Caterham-Renault 0
20 Timo Glock Ger Marussia-Cosworth 0
21 Charles Pic Fra Marussia-Cosworth 0
22 Heikki Kovalainen Fin Caterham-Renault 0
23 Jerome D'Ambrosio Bel Lotus-Renault 0
24 Narain Karthikeyan Ind HRT-Cosworth 0
25 Pedro de la Rosa Spa HRT-Cosworth 0


Position Team Points
1 Red Bull-Renault 136
2 McLaren-Mercedes 115
3 Ferrari 110
4 Lotus-Renault 69
5 Sauber 28
6 Mercedes GP 27
7 Williams-Renault 13
8 Force India-Mercedes 12
9 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 0
10 Caterham-Renault 0
11 Marussia-Cosworth 0
12 HRT-Cosworth 0

Initial findings

Here's a quick run down of what changes there would be if we were still using the old system. Alonso would have a lead of Lewis Hamilton of just 12 points instead of the 37 he currently enjoys. Now that's more than one win, but a small relative gap than with the current system. Kimi Raikkonen drops behind both Red Bull's, mainly because he hasn't enjoyed a race victory so far in 2012. The only other real noticeable difference between the 'old' and 'new' standings is that Pastor Maldonado jumps from 15th to 10th, courtesy of his victory in Barcelona.

Seven-time World Champion Michael Schumacher would have just 5 points to his name from 13 races. Now when you look at his past records (from when Formula 1 used the old points scoring system), his points total after 13 races were: 1992 - 42 1993 - 47 1994 - 76 1995 - 72 1996 - 39 1997 - 67 1998 - 70 1999 - 32 (broken leg at Silverstone) 2000 - 68 2001 - 94 2002 - 112. His tally of 5 in 2012 is a frankly staggering 27 points lower than any other season he has raced in Formula 1 (under the old system), and he actually missed half of that season with the horror crash at Silverstone (1999).

Now obviously back in the 90's and early 2000's reliability wasn't as good as it is today, which gave other drivers from the so called smaller teams the chance to achieve a top 6 result. Also, we tended to have just two, maybe three teams that were capable of taking race wins or podiums (the likes of Ferrari, Williams and McLaren more often than not), whereas in the 2012 season you could argue that 7 or 8 teams could take a race win or finish on the podium at any race.

Between the bottom six teams in the constructors standings, they would have only scored 17 points. That would be 6 points less than Sauber only, who sit 6th. Toro Rosso wouldn't have any points under the old system, as opposed to the 12 they actually have. McLaren would jump ahead of Red Bull to lead the constructors championship by 4 points, instead of being 29 behind. Likewise Ferrari would jump ahead of Lotus for 3rd and 4th respectively. Sauber would be just 2 points behind Mercedes and would only require a 4th place in one race to jump ahead. Pastor Maldonado's win in Barcelona would leapfrog Williams ahead of Force India, who'd have just 6 points despite both drivers impressing many.

As said at the top of the article, this is only for a bit of fun, but I think it's interesting to look at how things would have been if we were racing back under the old system. Personally I'm a fan of the new 10 place poitns scoring system; it allows more drivers to be (rightly) rewarded for theirs and the teams hard work throughout the course of a weekend. As said earlier, we simply don't have the number of retirements that we used to, which was often how the likes of the lower midfield teams would score their points.

Anywho, I hope you've enjoyed this slightly different (and in some ways familiar (points scoring system)) article. Did you prefer the old system of just places 1-6 scoring points? What about when we expanded from 1st-8th? Or are you like me and think that in today's world of Formula 1 that rewarding drivers down to 10th place is the best way? I'm going to be continuing this article right up until the end of the season and updating the standings after each Grand Prix, so if you've liked what you've seen so far then please do keep checking back after each race! I've also written a piece about the standings were we still using the 2003-2009 system of points down to 8th place; the article can be found here

Singapore Update

After this past weekend's race around the streets of Singapore, Fernando Alonso would have extended his lead at the top. Heading into the 14th race of the season the Spaniard held a 12 point over nearest rival Lewis Hamilton; but he leaves Singapore with a 13 point over his new nearest challenger, Sebastian Vettel. Jenson Button climbs from 6th to 4th after his 2nd place finish, leapfrogging Kimi Raikkonen and Mark Webber, who drop to 5th and 6th respectively. Despite Paul Di Resta's excellent 4th place he remains down in 15th on just 4 points and behind team mate Nico Hulkenberg.

In the constructors championship we now have joint leaders, with Red Bull matching the 83 points scored by McLaren thanks to Sebastian Vettel's victory. McLaren are on top by virtue of winning more races; 6 - 4 against RBR. Ferrari extend their advantage over Lotus, as to do Mercedes over Sauber. The 4th place achieved by Paul Di Resta helps Force India close the gap on Williams to just 2 points. Toro Rosso remain without a single point.

Japan Update

So with Fernando Alonso's first corner retirement and Sebastian Vettel's dominant win, the gap at the top closes to just 3 points. With 5 races still to go, 3 points really is nothing (saying that, the actual 4 point gap between the two is even less). As bad as things were for Fernando Alonso, the opposite can be said for his team mate. Felipe Massa finally returned to the podium after a near 2-year absence in what is surely his best drive since 2010. He leaps ahead of Pastor Maldonado and into the top 10, with 13 points. The other big winner of the day is undoubtedly Kamui Kobayashi. His first podium in Formula 1, one which could save his career, sees him move level with Maldonado in the drivers standings. The other drivers to pick up points were Jenson Button, Lewis Hamilton and Kimi Raikkonen.

In the constructors standings it's Red Bull who come away from Japan as the main beneficiaries. Heading into Japan Red Bull and McLaren were joint top of the standings on 83 points, but thanks to Sebastian's victory it's Red Bull who leave as the new leaders. They enjoy a 5 point lead over McLaren, despite both drivers scoring. Felipe Massa's 3rd place extends Ferrari's gap over Lotus to 17 points, who clearly are losing out on some major points from Grosjean's repeated first lap incidents. Sauber move to joint 5th with Mercedes after Kamui Kobayashi's brilliant podium.

Korea Update

Sebastian Vettel's second win in a week, and third in row, means he now leads the Drivers Championship. Coming into this weekend's Korean Grand Prix the German found himself trailing Fernando Alonso by 3 points, but leaves the Yeongam circuit with a 4 point lead over his main title rival. Mark Webber's first podium since Silverstone sees the Australian Red Bull driver jump up from 6th to 4th, moving ahead of both Jenson Button and Kimi Raikkonen. Lewis Hamilton's rear suspension issue early in the race that caused him to finish 10th means that the 2008 Champion now finds himself 21 points behind Vettel, with just 40 left on the table. Felipe Massa's recent upturn in form continued with a fine 4th place, a result that sees him close the gap to Sergio Perez to just 1 point. Further back it's Nico Hulkenberg who moves up the standings after coming home 6th. A fine drive from the impressive German sees him move ahead of compatriot Michael Schumacher and into 13th, with Schumacher dropping to 14th.

It's been a great weekend for Red Bull and Ferrari in the Constructors standings; but a disaster for McLaren. Red Bull take home the full 16 points after a 1-2 finish and extend their lead at the top to 21 points over McLaren. Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa's 3rd and 4th places respectively mean the Italian outfit take home 7 points and close the gap to McLaren, who failed to score this weekend, to just 8 points. The battle now looks very much on between the 'Big Two' for second place, with Red Bull now having such an advantage. Nico Hulkenberg's 6th place could prove vital for Force India, with the team now moving to within just 1 point of rivals Williams. Bad days at the office for Mercedes and Sauber mean the two stay on 27 points and in joint 5th. Despite both Toro Rosso's finishing in the top 10 and running well, the team still find themselves without a point in 2012. The day though very much belonged to Red Bull and Sebastian Vettel, with both now looking firm favourites to take both championships.

India Update

Sebastian Vettel's fourth win in a row sees the reigning double world champion extend his lead at the top of the standings to 7 points. His main and now only real championship rival Fernando Alonso came home just behind Vettel, his best result since winning in Germany, and takes home 6 points. 3rd, 4th and 5th place drivers Lewis Hamilton, Mark Webber and Jenson Button all scored points today and remain in the positions that they entered the weekend in. Kimi Raikkonen loses further ground as he fails to finish inside the top 6. Under the current points system (1st-10th) Kimi sits third in the standings, but under this system the Finn finds himself down in 6th. Felipe Massa scored the final point today and moves level with Sauber's Sergio Perez.

Only 3 teams scored points today with both Red Bull, McLaren and Ferrari drivers filling the top 6 places. Red Bull extend their lead over McLaren to 30 points and with just three races remaining, you'd have to say they're now more than firm favourites to take the Constructors title. Ferrari clawed 2 points back on McLaren to close the gap down to just 6 points. With no other team scoring points, no further changes can be seen in the standings.

Abu Dhabi Update

Well what a race that was; but how has it affected the drivers and constructors standings? Kimi Raikkonen secured his first Grand Prix victory since his comeback and the Finnish driver (and future comedian) now finds himself back up into third place in the standings, leaping ahead of Lewis Hamilton, Jenson Button and Mark Webber. The gap at the top between Sebastian Vettel and Fernando Alonso is reduced by a couple of points thanks to Fernando's second place. Vettel's brilliant fight through the field to finish on the bottom step of the podium keeps his lead in tact and must be delighted to see the gap only reduce by 2 points. Jenson Button's 4th place moves the 2009 World Champion ahead of Mark Webber. Further back Pastor Maldonado and Kamui Kobayashi drove impressively to come home 5th and 6th, and firm up their places in 11th and 12th respectively in the standings.

Under this points system, with a maximum of 32 points available in Austin and Brazil, Red Bull have won the Constructors Championship! They enjoy a 34 point lead over both McLaren and Ferrari and can now not be caught in the final two rounds. Sebastian Vettel's drive through the field today secured Red Bull the title and leaves McLaren and Ferrari wondering what could have been. The two big names of Formula 1 are now tied for 2nd place and will be fighting extremely hard to secure that position come Brazil. Kamui Kobayashi's 6th place, and 1 crucial point, sees Sauber jump ahead of Mercedes for 5th place in the standings. Pastor Maldonado secured 2 points for Williams, extending their gap over Force India to 3 points. Six different manufacturers have now won a race this season; and six different constructors scored today. Formula 1 eh? Such a predictable sport..

United States Update

Let's begin by focussing on what happened to title rivals Sebastian Vettel and Fernando Alonso. The Spaniard came through from 7th, after Ferrari broke the seal on Massa's gearbox to promote Alonso and put him on the clean side of the grid (seen by some as sporting, but as some others have said, the right thing to do), to 3rd. This secured him 4 points and drop just 2 to rival Vettel, who was overtaken in the latter stages of the race by a hugely impressive and determined Lewis Hamilton. The gap at the top is now 7 points with just 1 race left, meaning Alonso HAS to win in Brazil to have any chance of securing the title. He'll need Vettel to finish no higher than 5th, with the German just needing a 4th place to secure his third straight World Championship, becoming the youngest driver ever to do so. Just like under the current points system, Vettel needs only a 4th place to win. But unlike under the current system, where Alonso can win by finishing as low as 3rd, the Spaniard will have to win.

Lewis Hamilton's superb victory sees him leap to 3rd in the standings, 8 points ahead of Kimi Raikkonen. Lewis' win, one which was thoroughly deserved not just for his drive on Sunday, but for previous races in Singapore and Abu Dhabi where car issues prevented him from not only winning, but potentially still being in the title hunt, was one of the, if not the best drive of his F1 career. A second retirement in a row sees Mark Webber stay in 6th place and fall further behind Jenson Button, who secured 2 points for his brilliant 5th place (given where he was at the end of lap 1). An unhappy and slightly dejected looking Felipe Massa jumps from 10th to 8th in the standings thanks to his 4th place finish, but could, or should he have had more? One race to go. 7 points separate the two title rivals. Game on.

With Red Bull having already secured the Constructors Championship heading into Austin, the real battle of interest is for 2nd between long time rivals McLaren and Ferrari. McLaren scored 12 points compared to Ferrari's 7; meaning they now enjoy a 5 point lead over the Italian outfit. With just one race to go, can Ferrari overhaul the Woking outfit and finish 2nd? With only 4 teams scoring points this week, nothing from 5th down in the Constructors standings change. One thing to note though is that Marussia are still 10th and ahead of Caterham. 10th is a hugely important position to finish for those two teams; and with just Brazil left can Timo Glock and Charles Pic ensure that the now Russian owned team secure the teams highest finish in Formula 1? Qualifying pace in Austin would seem to suggest they can, but then again this is Brazil, we all know anything and everything can and probably will happen. 1 race to go; and a few very important battles to still sort out. McLaren vs Ferrari; Sauber vs Mercedes and Marussia vs Caterham.

Top Drivers

Driver Points
Hamilton 252
Rosberg 211
Vettel 203
Raikkonen 107
Bottas 101
Massa 97



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